Fr J Hackett
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That way lies anarchy and a free for all society. We are well on the way.
What to do if somebody has squatted on your mooring ?
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bedouin
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You can't make someone bankrupt for the cost of a tank of diesel unless they have a VERY big boat.
dgadee
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Can't find the report (anchorage crystal clear but reception poor) but I was very surprised by the stats evidencing how hard it can be to enforce a judgment. That was a decade or so ago when I still worked, but with covid and cutbacks I presume things have got worse.
Better to have effective regulators than go to court. Unfortunately most regulators in UK are not so effective. See e.g. water, information commissioner, ....
Better to have effective regulators than go to court. Unfortunately most regulators in UK are not so effective. See e.g. water, information commissioner, ....
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Boathook
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If starts to happen to often the fuel supplier may want to place a 'holding charge' on the card before supplying. Some fuel pumps already do it on UK forecourts.
Beneteau381
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Tell me about it! Even here
eebygum
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Unfortunately I think the woman who owns the boat has no shame… she lied to the harbourmaster, left without paying her bill; left the boat on a private mooring and allegedly had gone back to France.
eebygum
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Agreed
Equally I have no problem if somebody picks up so long as they either leave one person onboard or display their phone number on the washboards if their in the pub 300m up the Straits.
Agreed. On my mooring (behind the one in question) I have my phone number on the mooring… specifically so people can check if they can use it.
Equally I have no problem if somebody picks up so long as they either leave one person onboard or display their phone number on the washboards if their in the pub 300m up the Straits.
eebygum
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Very good point…. A very similar thing actually happened to me 15 years ago… my boat broke its mooring and was found drifting in the Menai Straits. A local commercial fisherman secured the boat in a local harbour and contacted the RNLI who contacted me. A gale was coming in the next day and he secured the boat in the harbour until I could collect two days later.
When I went to collect my boat, there was no discussion of Lloyds open forms or salvage, but he said he has lost a days work on the admiralty lighthouses taking the boat into harbour etc.
I felt morally obliged to make it up to him and gave him £200. My insurance company said I would have to pay under my excess.
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Probably making 2+2=5 from a few clues in your posts but is the boat in question a small motor-sailory thing? If so, they're onboard today.
Bouba
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I think the reward was well earned
eebygum
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No it’s not a motor cruiser.
Chiara’s slave
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Morally obliged and duly grateful. A bottle of Scotch as well wouldn’t seem out of order.
RupertW
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And this is why I keep going to Oz for holidays and keep avoiding moving there despite a lot of family and work opportunities. The nanny state level is incomprehensible to most Brits. Endless rules and a bizarre level of compliance.Here, in Oz, we have marine police and a bureaucratic State Maritime Authority. We would contact them and they would move the yacht to a police mooring. Both the Police and the State Maritime Authority have small runabouts which they use to monitor 'unusual' activity but if the vessel were large, say 40', they would employ a private operator to move the said vessel. Whether they charge the vessel owner - don't know.
There have been cases recently where vessels, seem, to have been abandoned, ferro hulled for example, and the last 2 had their rigs removed and then vessel and rig towed to a 'breaker'. Again I don't know how the economics work. If we own a vessel it needs to be registered and the registration is commonly tied to a Driving Licence - which provides an address (its a De Facto ID card, without being an ID card- so its difficult to disappear). (opening a bank account etc etc - needs a Passport or Driving Licence)
But. using someone else's mooring is illegal here.
So for us its a simple procedure and painless. In the meantime tell Water Police and use one of their moorings.
dgadee
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Are you the type who squats om moorings?
Neeves
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Yes,
Its an easy way to discourage people who cannot abide by simple social mores. Most of us don't bother about these the rules to which you (might) refer - these rules are all about being polite .... etc. and as we are polite... etc the rules simply don't impinge (like squatting on moorings, hogging the fast lane on a motorway)
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Bouba
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So...what is New Zealand like these days ?....it’s used to always be a whole lot worse than Oz in the coddling department and they have just had all those years being mothered by that horrible woman....or are things reversing....is NZ now the home of the free
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