RAI
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Very disconcerting. But at the moment only Belgium and Germany are making an offense out of having a non compliant radio. In the Netherlands, the offence is transmitting not owning.
VHF radio channel reductions
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lustyd
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I'd be curious what the wording of that offence is. My radio (B&G V60B) can be compliant if set to the correct region, but the region cannot be changed by the user.
Seven Spades
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Yes I don’t understand that. It is completely mad, it would be so sensible if you could change you radio from U.K. to say Dutch ND GET aITS etc then change is back to U.K. and get M1 and M2 and so on. i bet there is some stupid regulation about this.
There are other stupid regulations did you know you cannot buy an SSB radios that also has VHF you have to buy one of each if you want an SSB.
Alicatt
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That was what I was reading, and that a boat over 7m requires a radio hence the reason I'm looking, though the local bridge that requires opening to pass you call them up on GSM rather than VHF.
Not a requirement for me luckily, I do however have a Yaesu FT895D as a radio ham that is HF, VHF and UHF on the ham bands. The other thing that strikes me is that you cannot have dual watch never mind, god forbid, scanning. I did look at a Standard Horizon which can be set to US/Canada, UK, or Atis by the user, SH have not got back to me about VDES yet.
Also don't forget that along with the reduction in channels there is also a reduction on transmit power on certain channels.
syvictoria
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Presumably you have now had a reply from SH. Very disappointingly, SH have told me "This can be reprogrammed by a Retailer or Distributor that has programming capabilities. Please contact one of our Distributors in The Netherlands, who will be able to help you with this."
This is all turning into a bit of a comedy of errors, I have to confess... We have a fixed SH GX1800GPS which was installed some years ago in the UK. We've since purchased a handheld SH HX300E which was picked specifically as non-DSC radio for use from the cockpit in the Dutch canals... only to find that once ATIS is enabled, the radio effectively becomes useless due to the lack of channels available! We consequently had to revert back to using (albeit only occasionally in practise) the fixed radio with ATIS enabled, legging it in and out of the cabin as/when necessary! And now, seemingly, I have to take one/both radios to be reprogrammed (presumably at a cost?) should I wish to continue using them!!! (Will I ever use the handheld I wonder? Does anyone want to buy it if I bring it back to the UK!?
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Alicatt
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No more info from SH, I think I will purr them up about it.
Handheld HX890 has been reprogramed by myself which was very easy to do, it has 3 sets of modes that it can use by pressing buttons at switch on it allows you to select between International - same as the UK, Belgian channels with ATIS, and US channels though I can change that in the programming software to use a different set of channels, there is a drop down menu with different country sets that you can install.
With ATIS enabled it will use the RAINWAT frequencies: in Annex 2 of the agreement: https://rainwat.ctu.eu/sites/defaul...y-obsah/soubory/rabucuresti-revtrier2016e.pdf
Still have to take the GX2400 to the dealer to get it reprogrammed, meh, I'm in no hurry about it yet, too much other work to do on board to get her ready for use.
Handheld HX890 has been reprogramed by myself which was very easy to do, it has 3 sets of modes that it can use by pressing buttons at switch on it allows you to select between International - same as the UK, Belgian channels with ATIS, and US channels though I can change that in the programming software to use a different set of channels, there is a drop down menu with different country sets that you can install.
With ATIS enabled it will use the RAINWAT frequencies: in Annex 2 of the agreement: https://rainwat.ctu.eu/sites/defaul...y-obsah/soubory/rabucuresti-revtrier2016e.pdf
Still have to take the GX2400 to the dealer to get it reprogrammed, meh, I'm in no hurry about it yet, too much other work to do on board to get her ready for use.
dgadee
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Lower masts. VHF is line of sight.
Plum
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I have not noticed a lack of channels when ATIS is enabled. Which ones have you lost?
syvictoria
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Ah, that's interesting. I'll come back to you with an answer when I'm next onboard. Perhaps it's operator error after all!
RAI
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The ship station keeps the current full set of channels. Handheld radios are limited in both frequencies and power, under RAINWAT rules.
Plum
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I can't find any mention in the RAINWALT rules of handhelds required to have limited channels/frequencies. Can you post a link to the relevant section/attachment please?
RAI
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http://www.danubecommission.org/upl...ement Bucuresti, revised 3 April 2013 - E.pdf
Annex 3 Section 3.
Google is your friend.
Plum
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Thanks. I am glad I am not one of the authorities that has agreed to comply with that document. I can see several contradictions regarding handhelds.
